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The below excerpt is from a recent conversation between the two artists.

JS: ... I'm trying to remember this article or video that I read about a chef and the way he approaches vegetables. He tries to never slice them, but wedges in the knife, twists and lets the vegetable split apart in its own natural lines and form. I've spent a lot of time in the past trying to make what I'm working with into something it is not. Working against the innate form of what I have. In recent years I've been focusing in on how to refine what I've already got. Have you found that relating to …